I'm doing a new series of interviews via email with a variety of music supervisors and music publishers working in the music licensing business. The first interview is with Brooke Ferri of Black Toast Music. Black Toast Music has placed a TON of music in a variety of TV shows and Films including Six Feet Under, The Shield, CSI, The Nanny, Smallville, Party of Five, Prison Break, Las Vegas, Barbershop, My Name Is Earl, The Unit and many, many more.
You can read the interview on my site or below:
1) Hi Brooke. Can you tell me a Little
bit about yourself and your role at Black Toast?
I just graduated from Southwestern Law School
here in LA and Passed the bar this past Nov. I have been working for BTM since
November 2010. Since BTM is a boutique publishing company and music library my
role at BTM is very multi faceted. I am the manager of business and creative
affairs, which means that I help implement and expedite projects that involve
both the business and creative side of the industry.
My chief task since I have been here has been
to help launch black toast records. This has involved signing new indie bands, registering
copyrights, dealing with business entities, registering songs with the PROs, putting
together albums from the new bands as well as our established artists and creating
compilation albums. Since I have been here I have compiled and put together 11
albums which are currently available on iTunes and other major digital
distributors including albums by the hip hop acts G-$tack and St. John, the
blues artist Sonny Ellis, the indie artists Kelly Pardekooper and Paul Otten and
"TV Songs Vol. 1" and "Vol. 2" which feature our most requested BTM songs as
heard on popular TV shows. Our third compilation album including the song from
the Vampire Diaries Promo "I Will
Always Be Your Baby" by Jenny and the Fentones should be hitting iTunes this
summer.
Along with launching BTR and putting together
these albums I listen to a lot of music artists have submitted and make
suggestions to our president, Bob Mair, which artists and composers I believe would
make a nice contribution to our catalog. I then meet with the artists and
explain the business of how we operate. I explain the contract that they would
sign with us and help them understand the terms and what it means to them. If
they decide to work with us I then conference with Bob Mair and discuss what
songs we'd like from this artist and or if we want the artist to write
something specific for us; composers often write pieces specifically for our
needs. I then draw up the contracts for signing.
Another aspect of my job is pitching music to
supervisors and producers. BTM has such a great reputation in the industry that
we have many film and TV clients that come to us for specific music needs. When
we get a request I go through our catalog of about 4,000 songs and pull out the
tracks that I think will best suit the client's needs and send those songs to
the client.
There are plenty of other aspects to my job
including lots of data and lots of paper!
2) What kind of music does Black Toast
primarily place? Are there certain
styles of music you tend to place more than others?
We really place all genres of music. Lately, we
have been placing more vocal songs than instrumental only tracks. We have also
been placing a lot of blues and blues-rock and we are well known for our
hip-hop and place a lot of hip-hop and rap. My suggestion really would be for
artists to see what kinds of music are showing up on film and TV and that is
going to be the type of music we are placing.
We are also getting more involved in trailer
music which is typically big orchestral music sometimes with ethereal chanting
or hybrid orchestral rock music. We are also doing more advertising music,
which is almost always instrumental and often upbeat.
3) What advice do you have to musicians
interested in licensing their music beyond the obvious tips like "write great
music" and "produce great music". Any
specific tips based on your experience that musicians who want to license more
of their music should know about?
As I mentioned above, see what types
of music are popular in film and TV and try and write in that style. Also, what
is very important is to pay attention to the mixes. Right now mixes tend to be
very large and full so when mixing don't do something small unless of course
you are trying to replicate a certain sound, say, something from the 70's. Either
way however, the mix needs to be record quality as to that genre of music. What
is record quality for 2010 arena rock is different from 1970's folk. But
"Record Quality" in the mixes is really key. My other suggestion is to be
prolific and collaborate with other artists. The more you write the better your
chances and the more comfortable you will be letting a piece go to a publisher
who will typically want an exclusive deal with that piece of music and
collaborating helps you have a variety of different sounds.
4) How much can musicians make from
licensing their music? Obviously there are a lot of variables but can you give
us an idea of possibilities in terms of how much musicians can potentially
make?
I'm afraid I can't answer this
question with actual dollar amounts. It depends on how many songs that writer
has placed and if those songs are popular. We have artists whose sole source of
income is from licensing and there are others who have to have other sources of
income. The longer an artist stays in the game the more money he or she will
make. The artist should be aware that along with the synch fees they will get
from the publisher for the use of their song in a media project, as long as the
project airs on TV they will also get performance royalties from their PRO.
These royalties can add up and continue for years if the spot continues to air.
5) What makes the most sense from your
perspective, musicians writing music in anticipation of potential licensing
needs or musicians simply writing what they write naturally and then pursuing
licensing opportunities after the fact?
If a writer wants to use licensing as a way to promote their band then
they should write what they write and not try to change. Licensing can be a
great way to promote a new indie act. If the artist is trying to turn this into
a full time gig then they have to write all types of music in all styles and
pay attention to what is hot. That being said however, if an artist writes
great rock, pop, indie and singer songwriter music that's probably a good
enough mixture, if they can write rap and electronic too, great, but they
shouldn't write what is too far out of their comfort zone.
6) Any final thoughts you can leave us
with in terms of how musicians can successfully license their music?
First and foremost they need to understand the
business so that when a publisher explains how everything works they don't get
turned off. I suggest reading "All You Need To Know About The Music Business"
by Donald Passman and for those who are really ambitious check out "Music Money
and Success" by Jeffrey and Todd Brabec.
7) Thanks for your time, if musicians
want to learn more about your company and how they can submit music for your
consideration, where can they go to learn more?
www.blacktoastmusic.com Our new website including
Black Toast Records will be launching in June!!!